Last week Bart Davis with BigBoysHobbies.net came down to do some hunting. Being in the detector business He rarely is able to get away long enough to hunt much less drive a couple of hours to do it. Well we had a blast. The heat and humidity was brutal. I was able to ID another small coin spill with the target trace on the last scene of this video.. I hope you enjoy…
I have been hunting hard for several days getting several days of footage together to make some videos using the Minelab CTX3030.. Saturday, I headed to a spot that I had hunted a long time ago and haven’t found anything there in a while.. I started out on the east side of the property and my first target was a 1905 Indian Head cent.. Later I found a second 1905 when moving over into the homeplace’s yard.
I found a few relics including a silver plated spoon.
After going over the spots that I had hunted before, I asked the landowner if I could hunt in the yard… Man that was the best decision I have made in a long time..
My first target was a thimble from the O.B. Macaroni company. Click this O.B. LINK to see the History of this company that started back in 1899.
My next target was a small decorative item, as I was moving my detector, I heard a high tone and checked it.. It sounded good, so I marked it and finished the dig… After filling my hole back in, I moved over to the marked signal, and pinpointed.. It hit 12-41 then changed to 12-44.. The next thing I know is a huge flash of silver!!!
I just about lost it… So after texting my bud’s about the Morgan, I moved back up the other side of the sidewalk and another loud tone came in at 11-42…I wasn’t prepared for the second bigger silver that came out next!
I was pretty much ruined after that.. I hung around a little longer, but was pretty much done.. lol here is the total finds for the day. I did manage a few newer wheat’s by a swing set post.. I can honestly say haven’t had a big silver day like this in a long time. Luckily I had a video camera with me this day, cause I wouldn't have believed it unless I saw it...lol.... Hope you enjoy the post and the video..
My camera is finally back to work and I filmed Sunday. Now it’s a longer vid, the last half of the video I start demonstrating the Target Trace and how it identifies 2 or more targets in the ground. My last dig is with a landowner and I Identify multiple conductive targets which ends up being a coin spill.. I love this machine!!!
I don’t know about the rest of you but sometimes I hear of detectorist’s saying they dug a target at a certain depth and really wonder. I used to fish a lot and I had a pocket fish scale that was called the De-Liar.. it was a quick way to accurately weigh the fish while out fishing… So I thought here is a simple and easy way to make a “De-Liar” out of you pinpointer… I really hate carrying a tape measure in my pack and it takes extra time out of the hunt… This way it’s something already in your hand and it is quick…
All it takes is your pinpointer, I used a Garrett ProPointer for this. Any pinpointer can be used. I got some simple folder tabs(common masking tape will work) , some clear tape, a black magic marker, and a tape measure for acuracy. First I cleaned off the pinpointer. Next I put the folder taps(they have a self adhesive on the back) from the top done to the bottom. I then measured the pinpointer and marked the inches with a dash. After getting them marked, I put each inch number by its dash. Once finished I taped over the folder tab with a long piece of clear tape, to protect the measuring “tape” from moister and dirt.
With the finished result, it should last about a season of digging. My lasted about 6 months…
Hope this Helps
Gonehunting for History
This is Sunday’s hunt 6-17-12
This is a totally new yard and the CTX was hot right out of the gate.
While detecting the home from the day before I noticed a smaller home and yard at the opposite end of the street. It appeared to be 1920′s so I gained permission and got ready.
Now this has never happened in 28 years of detecting, but I got out of the car turned on the machine, ground balanced noise canceled and swing 3 swings along the sidewalk. 10-24 solid showed at 6 inches, dug down and at around 7, what I saw about made me drop my machine!!!
1890's-1920's J.R. Wood's & Son's 18kt Gold ring
I was pretty pumped about finding a ring and continued down the sidewalk.. nothing else.. So I moved up into the yard, thinking this may not be a good yard.. I started hearing and seeing very shallow clad along the walk way, so I moved out into the yard and immediately dug a 1905 Indian Head… After that I cut the yard in half and started griding…Next target was a second Indian Head, a 1902.
This yard is tiny and is about 15 yards wide by 10 yards long.. So it didn’t take me long. Several wheat’s came from all over.
My next find was out of the ordinary. It has to be one of the more intriguing coins I have ever found due to it’s horrible past.
For the second day in a row I find an Apothecary weight. This one is larger than the one from the day before. This one is about the size of a nickel and is a 3ii, and says two drachms.
The best find of the day in my opinion was this very well preserved Good for Token.
Now this was in a new yard and as far as I know hasn’t been hunted, But with the absence of silver makes me think someone had hunted it before…I’m glad they left some for me..lol
Hope you enjoy
Gonehunting for History
This was this weekend’s hunt with the CTX. Hope you enjoy.
Day 1-Saturday 6-9-12
I wanted to see what the CTX would do in cleaning up a yard that I had already hunted with both the E-Trac and the Deus. I went over a grid portion that I had cover with the two other machines. First thing that showed up was an Indian head.
My next few targets were wheats. I had a grand total of 12 in this yard.. 5 came from a pocket spill.
Next came my first gold charm. It is labeled on the back of the pin, “Gold Front”. Probably nothing real, but coming from a depth of 7 inches it still shined like gold..
The next signal was my first silver of the day this 1944 Mercury dime.
Then this tiny aluminum thimble.
About 3 inches from it was this toy ring. It has a cowboy hat attached.
Not sure what this partial find is. It looks like the cupped end of a spoon.
This buffalo was the deepest coin I have found so far. It was at least 9 inches. It was sort of impressive because it sounded like it was at 5 inches. I may have the volume limit too high. Depth reading showed 8 so I wasn’t sure till I got down to it. The Jefferson came shortly after.
I found a third silver with this strangely bent 1925 Mercury dime.. Not sure how it was bent but looks like a mower hit it. Never found one that old hit by a mower, but it was around the 6 inch mark.
Next was a very deep tiny gold locket. Same size as a dime, and was at 9 inches.. Not really sure how I heard it, but again it gave a strong signal and was actually deeper than my 7-8 inch plug.
What I think is the coolest find of the day was this One Drachm 3i apothecary weight. In the days before electronic scales and pre-packaged medicines, pharmacists used a balance beam scale to measure the appropriate amount of medicine to a customer. One would put the appropriate weights on one side and then pour the powdered drug on the other until the balance was centered. I had never seen one before or even knew they existed.
My final target of the day, was also a cool relic. This is my deepest target so far at 11 inches. After researching this piece, I found that it was one side of a brass pocket knife. The other side would have said “The Patriot Shoe”.
Here are the total finds from day one….
I will be posting Day 2′s shortly and the Real Gold show’s up…
Hope you enjoy.
Gonehunting for History
I had been having problems with the CTX because of the way it was not doing what I thought it was capable. So I contacted a CTX tester and got a lot of advice. So I have been hunting quite a bit since the advice and was asked what settings I was using.
First I picked the coin mode and heavily modified it. Don’t worry because you can save it to a new mode when finished. I then took out all of the discrimination, much like what you would do to set up two tone ferrous on the E-Trac. I then went to Tone ID profile and switched to Combined. My frequencies are my own preference the Ferrous line I moved to 24. The first conductive box I made it 310 hz and the sized it from 1 to 14, to cover nickels and lower targets. The Second box 495hz from 15 to 33, for aluminum, gold and some older Indian heads. The 3rd box 660hz from 34 to 42 to try and cover the most copper coins. The last box at 880hz from 43 to 50. to be my silver tones.. Now these might not be the best but it is what I have been using and I like.. The good thing about the CTX is you can set it up just like you want it..
Now some are saying set it up with auto sensitivity +3. In my hunts +2 was enough anything higher and it was a little unstable for my tastes. Now every so often I would quickly switch to manual and run it up to around 24 just to see if I could strengthen the iffy signals but it didn’t help.
I have the response on normal, Recovery Fast off because it seemed a little unstable in some trashy spots. Recovery Deep on, again a matter of preference.. Deepest coin was a buffalo nickel at a true 9 inches and it sounded and responded like it was 5 inches.
Now I think the most important setting is the Target Separation, I have it on Ferrous-Coin. You will notice when using it the Conductive targets will be red yellow and the ferrous targets blue.. Pinpoint on normal. At first I was having issues using the DD wiggle back to pinpoint, the reason was because I was trying to dig trash.. and I will explain what I mean later.
Once you have set it up like you want instead of saving it to the original mode and overwriting it, go down to Save as new.
One thing that I am seeing is if the CTX gives an iffy signal, good tone/target/bad signal or a good signal only on one side then it is usually bad. I tested this thought yesterday and documented 32 iffy tones, where there was only a good signal on one side of the target. Now I scanned a full 360 around the target, and still only could get a half signal. Out of the 32, 0 were good.. I quit writing down the results at 27 and counted five more nails and trash when I was done. I made sure that there wasn’t any good targets in the holes by digging extra large plugs and pulled every piece of metal out of the plug and hole before moving on.. the biggest resulting target of the half good tones where very large rusty nails, that once out of the hole would hit low iron. I did notice that the half tones were only on the conductive 38 and up targets id’s. The lower signals 37 down to 03 were almost never iffy.
What I have now been noticing that even at 9 to 11 inches the good targets hit very solid and they most of the time sound like they are only a few inches deep. This even in very trashy plugs..
Now I was having problems pinpointing using the wiggle back method. Now with these settings and knowing what to listen for, it is much easier. I have noticed that sometimes, I am guessing because of heavy trash, when pinpointing using wiggleback that I have to double check by backing up an additional 11 inches (size of coil) to make sure the target isn’t hitting on the back of the coil.. I occasionally had that problem with the E-Trac but not like on the CTX. It really isn’t a problem once you get used to checking it.. Its just as easy as coming in at 90degrees and checking it that way too.
Since changing to this setting my success rate has gone through the roof, especially in hunted out spots.
Now this is probably not the best setting or even worth reading, but I have had really good success since changing to the combined. I haven’t even messed with any of the other extras, I want to get settled on the basics before moving on to the others. I know there is more to this machine, but I wanted to get the basic of the machine down and become proficient before trying any changes to the modes.. I hope this helps. As soon as I move on with this detector I will post what I am doing..
thanks for reading
Gonehunting for History
“This is not an E-Trac, as soon as users realize that the CTX will start to make sense!” That is a paraphrase of a message I got recently, when I was looking for help after having problems getting acclimated to this new machine. I was hearing great success stories, yeah I was finding coins and relics that I had missed with my other machines, but I was really struggling. I was really going slow had the sensitivity at 28 and I just wasn’t happy with my results. I broke down and contacted Randy Horton a Tester for the Minelab CTX3030.
He touched on several things that started to make sense and really opened my eyes to the what this machine can do if set up properly..
1. This is not an E-Trac.. Like most users I had the variability setting at 30 on my E-Trac for the simple reason of getting more definition between signals and it helped to identify by ear, target, target size, etc. With the CTX there is no variability setting. The “processor” is much faster and each tone has a bin that can be resized and the tone frequency can be raised or lowered to your preference. Once this is realized and implemented, the machine will “pop” and start making sense…. At least for me it did. In my limited experience out of the box operation was not as simple as the E-Trac… but it goes back to my point….
2. Still not an E-Trac. Like a lot of user’s, to pinpoint, I did the DD wiggle back method where you back your coil up will making short passes over the target till the sound disappeared and 9x out of 10 it was at the tip of the coil. With the new tech in the CTX’s coil, “The Smart coil continually communicates with the detector, constantly updating information regarding interference, channel preferences and sensitivity requirements” it can be a task to use the wiggle back and be correct. This is was one of the problems I was having. Simply x-ing the target, listening to the target response, plus using the pinpoint with the target trace is one method recommended, and it was much more successful for me.
Although some users do not like using the screen while detecting and going solely based on the sound(Including me), that is fine… for an E-Trac,,, but this is not an E-Trac. Minelab’s Target Trac while pinpointing is a definite improvement. You can actually watch the target trace signature grow when the target hits the center of the detection field on the coil. Why not use the technology Minelab has brought to help in getting the best performance out of the machine?
3. REMEMBER This is not an E-Trac…. In my own observation and reading other user’s comments, running the sensitivity in Auto +3 is not necessarily the best thing.. In fact a lot of users are getting great results with +2 and even +1. Not only is the CTX faster, it is definitely more sensitive. Now after getting more accustomed to the machine I am sure a manual sensitivity can be used.
The next point Mr. Horton brought up really made it click in my head.. The E-Trac when going over, say a silver dime, would give a slight warble tone, because the machine was trying to identify the ferrous and conductive properties of the dime, thus you got a warble.. That was the money tone users fell in love with on the Trac, at least I did. With the CTX, the processor is so much faster that it doesn’t have the warble, in essence a more precise signal.. For example, with the E-Trac nickles bounced all over from Fe 09-13 to Co 11-14. On the CTX every nickle I have dug has been, both deep and shallow, hit either 11-12 or 12-12.. not much difference. Even the Indian Head cents hit a solid 10-36 and not the “triangle tone” associated with the greenies, except for one that was hidden by a large rusty cap.
The unfortunate part of all of the this, is when a machine like the CTX follows a proven coin/silver finding machine like the E-Trac, differences come up and the latter is most of the time viewed to be “wrong” in most eyes, and it will cause user issues. Understanding the big differences in the two machines will help users be astoundingly more productive…
I know there is so much more about this machine that I need to learn, but this basic and simple lesson for me, dramatically helped me, and I hope it helps you too….
So after my discussion with Randy, before signing off he recommended I try the Combine Feature. In my next post, I will try to go step by step in what I am now using. I am sure there are better programs, but it is definitely working for me. For E-Trac users who were hard core Multi-tone and 2 tone ferrous users will love this feature, at least I do.
I finally got to hunt with my new Minelab CTX 3030, and seemed to be doing good in some hunted out spots.. I went to the spot where I had found the Civil War reunion badge and metal pictures. Me and a friend had gone there but really didn’t find a lot. So I decided it would be the first spot to really test it out..
The first 3-3hour hunts produced 3 mercs, 2 buff’s not in picture, another metal picture(flat piece at top, appears to be a farm scene) and several other finds including a WWI dog tag. I also found 2 silver necklace charms, and Good For Token….